Elizabeth JAMES (1917-2009)

1 Elizabeth JAMES¹ (1917-2009) [13948]. Born 1 Aug 1917, MI.² Marr Willard Hoyt MALONE 24 Jun 1941, IN.³ Died 29 Aug 2009.²

Elizabeth, shown in the 1940 MI, Oakland, Pleasant Ridge census was born about 1918. This matches no known child of Bessie and North. This child, if 22, would have been 12 in the 1930 census and 2 in the 1920. However, Elizabeth does not appear with Bessie and North in either of these census reports.

However, from the Detroit Free Press.

Jan. 17, 1937 - "Mr. and Mrs. North G. James and their daughter Elizabeth of Kensington Blvd., left this week for Riverside, Calif., to stay until April.".

2 North Granger JAMES^1,4,5,6,7 (1873- ) [1078]. Born 7 Apr 1873, IN, CA or AR.^1,4,5,6 Marr Tamaco ? 1 Apr 1910, Los Angeles, CA.⁸ Marr Bessie Diane CAREW 12 Feb 1916, Detroit, MI.⁹ Div 23 Feb 1916.⁸

The 1880 AR, Garland, Hot Springs census shows North Granger born about 1873 in IN.

The 1910 CA, Los Angeles, Los Angeles census shows North Granger born about 1878 in IN.

His Michigan marriage registration shows him born about 1881 in IN.

His WWI Registration shows him born April 17, 1883.

The 1920 MI, Oakland, Royual Oak census showns him born about 1879 in AR.

The 1920 CA, Los Angeles, San Antonio census (in the household of his sister and brother-in-law, North was born about 1874 in IN.

And in the 1930 MI, Oakland, Pleasant Ridge census, North was born about 1976 in CA.

In the 1940, MI, Oakland, Pleasant Ridge census he is shown born about 1890 in Arkansas.

Those researching this feel that 1873 in Indiana is closest to being correct, but we'll probably never know for sure.

Genealogist report:

"We know that Bessie Diane Carew, daughter of Harriet Rose, married (2nd) North Granger James. The James family appears in the 1940 MI, Oakland, Pleasant Ridge census. In various sources, North James is reported to have been born anywhere from 1873 to 1883 in Indiana, California or Arkansas. Here he is shown as being born about 1890 in Arkansas. Bessie is also lying about her age since we know she was born about 1881. This would indicate that she was born about 1892! An even greater mystery is the daughter Elizabeth born about 1918. This matches no known child of Bessie and North. This child, if 22, would have been 12 in the 1930 census and 2 in the 1920. However, Elizabeth does not appear with Bessie and North in either of these census reports. (However, we are showing Elizabeth as reported in the census.

Looking back at other census reports, I think it is pretty clear from the 1880 census report that North James was born about 1873 in IN, a son of Richard and Ava North. Another interesting report is the 1920 CA, Los Angeles, San Antonio report. Here, North is apparently living with a wife, Elizabeth, and a daughter, Ava H. At the same time, of course, he is shown in the 1920, MI, Oakland, Royal Oak census, living with Bessie, her daughter Virginia (by first husband John McGuire), and Ninette born about 1915, a daughter we have assumed to be Bessie's and North's. This, however, may not be true either. Ninette's father is shown as being born in Canada and in this report, at least, North was born in Arkansas. Bessie's first husband John J. McGuire was born in Canada but they were divorced in 1914. Ninette may have been Bessie's and John McGuire's. I have never been able to find anything further on Ninette. A most unusual family! (We are showing Ninette as a daugher of John McGuire)."

4 Richard H. JAMES⁶ ( - ) [10853].

5 Ava ?⁶ ( - ) [10854].

3 Bessie Diane CAREW^1,4,10 (1881- ) [422]. Born 1881, Royal Oak, MI.^4,10,11,12 Marr John J. MCGUIRE 13 Jun 1904, Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH.^11,12 Div 14 Jan 1915, Oakland County, MI.¹¹

From the Royal Oak Tribune, March 13, 1914. "Little Bessie, youngest daughter of John J. and Bessie Carew McGuire, aged one year and ten months, died March 5. Mrs. Bessie McGuire wishes to express her most sincere thanks to her friends and neighbors for their kindness and sympathy shown her in her late bereavement for the beautiful offerings; also to Rev. Dr. St. John pastor of the Congregational Church."

6 Thomas J. CAREW⁹ (c. 1840-bef1903) [418]. Born c. 1840, England.⁹ Marr Harriet M. ROSE 27 Jul 1872, Detroit, MI.⁹ Died bef 1903.¹³

7 Harriet M. ROSE^9,14,15 (1833-1915) [358]. Born 1 May 1833, Tioga County, PA.¹⁴ Marr Joseph DOWS 2 Jul 1860, Royal Oak, MI.¹⁵ Died 9 May 1915, Royal Oak, MI.¹⁴ Buried 13 May 1915, Oakhill Cemetery, Pontiac, MI.¹⁴

From a Pontiac, MI newspaper.

1894-11-30 - "Mrs. H. Dows, of Detroit, is visiting relatives in town [Royal Oak]."

1895-02-01 - "Thieves broke into Mrs. Dow's barn one night last week and helped themselves to a load of hay. They had better look a "leddle owt" as they are well known."

1895-03-15 - "Robert McGee has taken Mrs. Dow's farm to work the coming summer."

1895-12-27 - "Mrs. H. Dows is visiting relatives in Cleveland."

1896-01-10 - "Mrs. H. Dows has moved to Detroit."

1896-03-06 - "Mrs. Harriet Dows of Detroit vistied relatives in town [Royal Oak] Monday."

1896-05-08 - "S. Davis is working Mrs. Dow's farm this year."

From the Birmingham Eccentric.

1907-05-24 - "Mrs. H. Carew is fitting up the old house owned by her on the corner of Third and Center Streets, that was occupied for several years as a saloon. It will be changed into an apartment house for three or four families."

From the the Livingston County Daily Press and Argus (Howell, MI)

1908-12-16 - "Royal Oak - Fire, originating from a defective chimney, destroyed the five-family apartment house, owned by Mrs. Harriet Carew at Third and Center streets."

Obituary from the May 14, 1915 Royal Oak Tribune. "Mrs. Harriet D. Carew, an Old Resident Died Saturday. Died - At the home of her daughter, Mrs. W.O. Wilcox, Saturday, Mrs. Harriet D. Carew, aged 82, Harriet Rose was born in Tioga county, Pa., May 1, 1833. She was the daughter of the late Virgil M. Rose, and was a sister of the late Mariva A. Hodges, whose husband built the Hodges House in Pontiac. She came with her parents to Royal Oak at the age of three years, and has resided here continuously since. She was twice married. Her first husband was Joseph Dows, by whom she had three children: Mrs. C.F. Hamilton, of Cincinnati, O.; Mrs. W.O. Wilcox and Mrs. Dollie B. Parent of Royal Oak. Her second husband was Thomas Carew, one child being born of this union, Mrs. John J. McGuire, also of Royal Oak. She left 11 grand-children. Her father V.M. Rose, was one of the earliest settlers in Royal Oak Township. At one time he owned nearly all the land that comprises the village, and conducted a hotel at the intersection of Woodward avenue and Main street, which was known as "The Travelers Home." It was at that time one of the leading hostelries between Pontiac and Detroit, and is well remembered by the earlier residents of the town. Mrs. Carew owned the Rose House in Pontiac until about two years ago, when she sold it to B.V. Woodward, of Pontiac. She was the last member of the family. The funeral was held from the home of her daughter, Mrs., W.O. Wilcox, Wednesday at 1 o'clock, and the remains were taken to Pontiac and placed in the family lot in Oak Hill Cemetery.

14 Virgil Maxim ROSE^16,17 (1808-1894) [350]. Born 1808, Manchester, VT. Marr Cordelia BAILEY 1829, New York. Died 7 Jun 1894, Royal Oak, MI.^16,17 Buried 11 Jun 1894, Oakhill Cemetery, Pontiac, MI.

From Pleasant Ridge; Then and Now.

"In 1836 one of Rose's horses was stolen, and he printed posters offering a reward for capture of the thief. His descendents still have one of the posters."

From the Birmingham Eccentric, January 14, 1881 - "The hotel of V. M. Rose on the gravel road one mile from this place [RO] caught fire from a defective chimney at eleven o'clock, and burned to the ground Monday night, the family barely escaping with their lives. Loss estimated at $5,000, with no insurance."

From the Pontiac Weekly Bill Poster and other Pontiac newspapers.

1876-12-06 - "Enoch Brown, who was arrested in Detroit a few days ago for stealing three chickens from V.M. Rose, of this place [Royal Oak], was arrested before Squire Russell and sentenced to ninety days in the Detroit House of Corrections.

1877-11-28 - "Miss Josephine Newman died at the residence of V.M. Rose, in Royal Oak, Nov. 25th. The remains will be taken to Onondaga for interment."

1881-02-16 - "The Gregory brothers of New York city are stopping at V. M. Rose's."

1881-04-13 - "Virgil Rose is about to erect a new building on the grounds of the old Rose Hotel at Royal Oak."

1881-10-19 - "Mr. Virgil Rose has been erecting an addition to his barn."

1884-07-23 - "V. M. Rose is dangerously ill."

1885-08-25 - "V.M. Rose's people are making money and at the same time gaining a reputation for pure cussedness, by shutting up cattle belonging to poor people."

1885-08-25 - "During a wind storm, the other day V. M. Rose's summer kitchen was blown down and Miss Harriet Carew, received serious injuries."

1885-09-02 - "The co-partnership heretofore existing between Mr. and Mrs. Wilcox and V. M. Rose has been disolved by mutual consent."

1887--2-09 - "Circuit Court - Wm. H. Stevens vs. Virgil M. Rose, twenty days given to settle bill of exceptions and proceedings stayed."

1893-11-09 - "V.M. Rose had a cow stolen out of a field one evening last week."

1894-06-01 - "V. M. Rose has been on the sick list, but is now better."

1894-06-15 - "V. M. Rose died Thursday evening June 7th. Further notice next week."

1894-07-26 - "Mark S. Brewer and Arthur R. Tripp are commissioners on claims in the estate of Virgil M. Rose."


Obituary from the Oakland County Post, Friday, June 22, 1894.

"Died, at his residence in this village Thursday, June 7th, 1894 at 10:30 o'clock p.m., Virgil M. Rose, aged 86 years. He retired to his bed about 10 o'clock feeling exceedingly well, in fact, better than he had for some time past. He ate a hearty supper and was cracking jokes with members of the family in the early part of the evening. Mrs. C.J. Gregory, his grand-daughter had to pass by his room later in the evening and was horrified to find him dead. He had only been dead a few moments when found. Justice Stors empaneled a jury which, after viewing the remains rendered a verdict that the deceased came to his death from the effects of old age. The funeral was held at the house Monday, June 11th, conducted by Rev. A. Wood and the remains taken on the 11:45 train to Pontiac and laid to rest beside his wife, who had proceeded him by about twenty-five years. Two children are left to mourn his loss, Mrs. Harriett Dows, of Cleveland, Ohio and Mrs. Mariva Hodges of Pine Lake. The following relatives were present from a distance. Mrs. H. Dows, of Cleveland, Mariva A. Hodges of Pine Lake and Wm. Saunders of Howell. Deceased was born in Manchester, Vt., in 1808 where he lived until he was 11 years of age. He then moved with his parents to Roseville, Pa., removed from Roseville to Detroit in 1834, came to Royal Oak in 1835 and purchased a large tract of land from the government and has resided here ever since. There was seven children in his father's family, five boys and two girls, all of whom have passed away. Mr. Rose was one of the oldest pioneers in the county, having lived to see it advance from a howling wilderness in the 30's, infested by Indians and wild animals, to what it is at the present time, one of the best agricultural counties in the state."

From the Royal Oak Tribune, May 18, 1926

"The Pleasant Ridge village commission last night awarded a contract to R.D. Baker Company for the paving of Virgil Rose avenue." There is, unfortunately, no longer a street by that name in Pleasant Ridge.

15 Cordelia BAILEY¹⁸ (1808-1868) [351]. Born 1808, NY.¹⁸ Died 14 Feb 1868, Royal Oak, MI. Cause: Nervous fever. Buried Oakhill Cemetery, Pontiac, MI.

Sources

1	"1940 MI, Oakland, Pleasant Ridge census".

2	"U.S. Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 for Elizabeth Malone".

3	"Indiana Marriages, 1810-2001 for Willard H. Malone and Elizabeth James".

4	"1920 MI, Oakland, Royal Oak census".

5	"WWI Selective Service registration card".

6	"1880 AR, Garland, Hot Springs census".

7	"1920 CA, Los Angeles, San Antonio census".

8	"Divorce Record of North Granger James and Tamaco James".

9	"Michigan Marriage Records".

10	"1910 MI, Oakland, Royal Oak census".

11	"Michigan Divorce Records of John J. McGuire and Bessie D. McGuire".

12	"Marriage Certificate of John J. McGuire and Bessie D. Carew".

13	"The Detroit City Directory for 1903".

14	"Obituary in Royal Oak Tribune, May 14, 1915".

15	"Michigan Marriage License Reports on the marriage of Joseph Dows to Harriet Rose".

16	"Obituary of Virgil Rose from the Oakland County Post, Friday, June 22, 1894.".

17	"Michigan Death Index".

18	"Ancestry.com, Snow/Lyman Ancestors".