See also
1 Henry ROSE1 (c. 1869- ) [3698]. Born c. 1869.1
2 Martin P. ROSE , Jr.1,2 (1820-1874) [1360]. Born 1820, NY.1,3 Died 10 Apr 1874, Pontiac, Oakland County, MI.1,2,3
A manuscript titled "The Rose House", owned by the Oakland County Pioneer and Historical Society, states that the hotel came under the ownership of an M.P. Rose around 1871 and that he died shortly after taking it over.
Obituary from the Pontiac Bill Poster, April 15, 1874.
"Our city was startled last Friday morning on hearing that M.P. Rose, the well known landlord of the Rose House had died suddenly during the night. About a week previously, Mr. Rose had complained of a severe inward pain, but it gradually left him, and nothing was thought of it. On Friday night he appeared in his usual good health, and joked with the boarders in his usual happy manner. At about midnight, he breathed very hard, and in a manner that caused his wife to entertain doubts about his health. She endeavored to arouse him and failing in this called for assistance. Mr. Sam Richardson, Harry Hull, and others in the house immediately responded, and two minutes later Mr. Rose died in the arms of Mr. Richardson, who had raised him to a sitting position. The physicians decided that apoplexy was the cause of death. Mr. Rose came to Michigan in 1836. Four years since he purchased the Farmer's Hotel, and changed the name to the Rose House, continually enlarging and improving the same until it ranked with the best country hotels in Michigan. At the time of his death he was nearly 54 years of age. On Sunday last. his remains were conveyed to Mt. Clemens, escorted by a delegation from the Masonic Lodge of the city. At that village they were met by the Masonic Fraternity, and the burial services conducted by that order. The deceased was an upright and conscientious citizen, strictly temperate and quiet, and was beloved by all who knew him. He leaves a wife and two small children. The hotel will be run by Mr. A. Ostrander.".
4 Martin P. ROSE3,4,5 (1785-1824) [1355]. Born 6 May 1785, Manchester, Bennington, VT.5,6 Marr Rebecca LEARNED bef 1807. Died 1824.
Notes from the researcher who provided the information for Joel Rose on the World Family Tree of Ancestry.com: "BIRTH: Date is from the IGI."
Notes from Margaret Amey: "Pioneers of Bradford Co." says that Martin Rose got land in Penn. in 1815 from brother William. He had settled there in 1806 and the area was named Roseville for him. Martin died in 1824 and brother Joel adm. his estate. Rufus Lemon was appt. guardian of the children. It is possible that this Joel may have lived in the same location for awhile.
8 Joel ROSE3,5 (1748-1819) [1555]. Born 2 Mar 1747/48, New Milford, Litchfield, CT.3,5 Bap 2 Mar 1747/48, New Milford.7 Marr Rachel ROBERTS 4 Jul 1774, Manchester, Bennington Co., VT.5,8 Died 31 Aug 1819, Lysander, Onondaga, NY.3,5 Buried 1819, Rose Family Cemetery, Baldwinsville, Lysander, Onondaga Co., NY.
Joel was appointed administrator of his father's estate 3-27-1782, and one of the appraisers of the estate of brother Arra, 3-29-1785. A Pvt.in the Rev. War, his name is on a monument in Manchester dedicated to the men who fought in all the wars. He was a patriot, apparently influenced by his wife's family, while his father and some brothers were Loyalists. He and Rachel had ten children, born 1774 to 1794. These included Isaac, Joel Jr., Hannah, William, Peter, Martin, Ezra, Levi,Levicy, and Oharrey. He is on the Census for Manchester, 1790, 2 males over 16, 6 males under 16, and 3 females. He was evidently still inManchester on 9-29-1800, as a horse was reported strayed or stolen from him on that date, although he is not in Census for that year. The family removed to Onondaga County soon after. Son William had Roseville, Pa. named after him (Life in Roseville :A Socio-Historical Portrait, BaileyPrinting Co., 1973). Joel's Tombstone, located in the Rose Family Burying Ground near Baldwinsville, is inscribed "In Memory of Joel Rose who died 31 Aug. 1819 in the 72 yr. of his age". Birthdate is from a family bible. Levi was appointed administrator of his estate, 9-7-1819.
From Margaret Amey: "The baptism of Joel Rose 2 Mar 1748 in New Milford is said to have come from a family Bible not public records. In 1930 the Bible was viewed or owned by a descendant Mrs Nora Palmer in New York city. ".
9 Rachel ROBERTS3 (1751-1819) [1556]. Born 20 Oct 1751, Providence RI.3,5 Died 29 Jul 1819, Lysander, Onondaga Co., NY.5 Buried 1819, Rose Family Cemetery, Baldwinsville, Lysander, Onondaga Co., NY.
She was the daughter of John Roberts and Susanna Mayhew of Manchester, who came from Rhode Island via Nine Partners, NY. John was a Whig. Rachel had five brothers: Peter, John, William, Benjamin and Christopher. One sister, Jemina. Peter was involved in the sale of cattle belonging to Samuel Rose II, 5-14-1787. Rachel's Tombstone, located in the Rose Family Burying Ground near Baldwinsville, is inscribed "In Memory of Rachel wife of Joel Rose who died 29 July 1819 in the 68th year of her age". Birthdate is from a family bible.
Notes from the researcher who provided the information for Joel Rose on the World Family Tree of Ancestry.com
"Listed as over 45 in the 1800 census. There were 2 females living in the home at the time that were over 45, possibly his mother was living with them at the time.".
5 Rebecca LEARNED3,9 (1785-1853) [1356]. Born 20 May 1785.3,9 Marr Francis WYETH aft 1820. Died 1853.3
10 John LEARNED3,10 (1738-1832) [1363]. Born 30 Mar 1738.3,10 Marr Mary WHITE 14 Apr 1762.10 Died 10 Nov 1832, Angelica, NY.3,10
From: The Learned Family, compiled by William Law Learned in part from the papers of the late Joseph Gay Eaton Larned. Albany, Joel Munsell's Sons, 1882.
"JOHN5 (Edward4, Benoni3, Isaac2, William1), m., April 14, 1762, Mary White, b. July 23, 1744, and removed to Swansea, N. H., where probably his children were born. The History of Dublin, p. 361, says he came from Temple, Mass., in 1777, to Dublin, and settled lot 8, range 4. He subsequently removed to Columbia, Bradford Co., Pa., and finally to Angelica, N. Y., where he d. Nov. 10, 1832. His wife d. August 7, 1827".
11 Mary WHITE3 (1744-1827) [1364]. Born 23 Jul 1744.3,11 Died 7 Aug 1827.10
3 Jane GOODALE1,12 (c. 1830- ) [3696]. Born c. 1830, NY.1,12 Marr Alden M. VARNEY 1876.13
From the Pontiac Weekly Bill Poster.
April 22, 1874 - "The Rose House is thriving as usual under the management of the widow, who is determined to make the hotel as popular as ever."
According to "The Rose House", however, a new landlord took over almost immediately but by 1877 Virgil Rose (brother of Martin) appeared to be the real owner.
In the 1880 census, Jane is found in Clio, married now to Alden Varney. Jenny and Henry are 13 and 11 and Jane's mother, Sarrah Goodale, is also living with them.
7 Sarrah GOODALE12 (c. 1796- ) [780]. Born c. 1796, NY.12
| 1 | "1870 Pontiac, MI census". |
| 2 | "Obituary for Martin P. Rose, Pontiac Bill Poster, April 15, 1874". |
| 3 | "Ancestry.com World Family Tree". |
| 4 | "Manchester, VT Vital Records". |
| 5 | "Website of D.W. Brown & K.C. Rose - http://users.mstar2.net/katerose/". |
| 6 | "Ancestry.com World Family Tree". |
| 7 | "Information provided by Margaret Amey". |
| 8 | "Manchester, VT marriage records". |
| 9 | "The History of Dublin, N.H. by Rev. Levi W. Leonard, 1920". |
| 10 | Joel Munsell's Sons, 1882, "The Learned Family, compiled by William Law Learened in part from the papers of the late Joseph Gay Eaton Larned". |
| 11 | Nathaniel Goodwin, 1849, "The Foote Family: Or the Descendents of Nathaniel Foote, one of the First Settlers of Wethersfield, Conn". |
| 12 | "1880 census". |
| 13 | "From Biographical Record of Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens of Oakland County, Michigan, 1903.". |